Big Chuck and Lil' John

Mm-hmm.

And in a way, Big Chuck and Little John out of, out of Cleveland were, were that.

They became more general movie hosts.

But they're, they were, up to a point, s- strictly horror, and then their, their, um, film catalog opened up and the station wanted them showing different types of films.

Um, and then I, uh, I think that one of the most formative memories for me as far as horrors, horror movies are concerned is there was, in Northeast Ohio, out of Cleveland, there was a sh- a TV show, um, like a movie show kind of like Elvira or Vampira or whatever, but it was these two guys and there was...

It was called Big Chuck and Little John.

Literally a really tall dude and a very diminutive man.

Um-

I, uh, the, the only thing I could say is I...

How many of those, like, things did I send him? I sent him Big Chuck Little John-

Oh

... old Cleveland commercials, Gulardi.