Bhaskar Sunkara

It's a massive result, and we have a massive show for you tonight.

We've got interviews with Krystal Ball and Bhaskar Sunkara, and I'm joined all night by Aaron Bastani.

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movement.

And I'm joined now by another key figure responsible for the spread of democratic socialism in America.

Bhaskar Sunkara is the founding editor of Jacobin Magazine, the president of The Nation Magazine, and author of The Socialist Manifesto, and more recently, The Blueprint, How Socialism Can Work in the Real World.

Bhaskar, thank you for joining me.

And then there are what you could say are in the intellectual or intellectual adjacent climate.

So people like Bhaskar Sunkara, who's the editor and founder of Jacobin Magazine.

There are people like Cornel West or Vivek Chhibber who are working within academia, heavily you know, advocate for socialism within those spheres, writing books and so on.

Now let's talk about just the platform itself of the actual organization, of the actual DSA.

If you look at the amount of the economy that's dominated by by the government.

And that part is always conveniently ignored, as one would if one was trying to save this article of faith from refutation by using whatever elements of truth, whatever grains of truth you can find.

Yeah, and I think it's worth mentioning one other dimension of this, which is actually pretty recently relevant, because Bhaskar Sunkara, again, we mentioned him before, really prominent DSA member, a founder of the Jacobin magazine.

published this book this year called The Blueprint, which talks about how you could create market socialism, how you could create a society that captures the market benefits of capitalism, but under a socialist regime where people don't actually have private property, or at least private property in the means of production.

Thanks to producer and director Alan Minsky and to Jacobin Radio's Micah Utrecht.

Bhaskar Sunkara is the founder and editor of Jacobin Magazine.

And special thanks to Robert Brenner.

And thanks to you for listening.

Ricky D'Ambros is executive producer.

Bhaskar Sunkara is president of The Nation.

Katrina Vanden Heuvel is editor and publisher of The Nation.

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I'm very excited to say we really do have the perfect guest.

We're going to be speaking with Bhaskar Sunkara, co-author of The Blueprint, How Socialism Can Work in the Real World.

He's a longtime DSA member, founding editor of Jacobin Magazine, and currently president of The Nation.

So truly the perfect guest to talk about all these topics.

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Ricky D'Ambros is executive producer.

Bhaskar Sunkara is president of The Nation.

Katrina Vanden Heuvel is editor and publisher of The Nation.

Our theme music is Barcelona Afrobeat, licensed by Creative Commons.