Bhagat Singh

of the people will bowl for the country.

Rabada reading Bhagat Singh literature before bowling is, I'll pay for that show.

See, not everyone is a Rishabh Pant, right? So don't keep that in mind.

And just on Rabada, Aditya, you had sent us a tweet.

My guest today is Ramachandra Guha, back for the eighth time on The Seen and the Unseen.

How lucky are we? Ram's latest book is called Arguments with Gandhi and the book documents Gandhi's arguments against the likes of Lenin, Bhagat Singh, Ambedkar and Savarkar and many more.

There are fascinating sections on non-violence, justice, religion, caste, gender and the environment.

The book also has a chapter on Gandhi's influence on Martin Luther King, which I particularly loved.

And there are three, and that made me think about it more deeply than I otherwise would have because of what your book made me question.

So I want to ask you about, you know, three of those areas in which I had thoughts.

And one of them is the whole Gandhi versus Bhagat Singh thing.

In a couple of chapters, you kind of delineate how that goes.

You had a growing fascination with communism.

You had everything that Bhagat Singh did.

You know, Bhagat Singh was part of a group.

I think they were called the HRC.

And Ram in his book has a couple of delightful chapters on, you know, the arguments between Bhagat Singh and Gandhi on this.

And Bhagat Singh, you know, when Gandhi called off the Chauri Chauri, because of the Chauri Chauri incident, when he called off that movement, Bhagat Singh described it as being stabbed in the back.

And Bhagat Singh's whole thing was that we will use violence.

There has to be violence.