Beyonder

Well...

Ah, the Beyonder.

Sean, you were saying something.

I was saying, you know...

I mean, like it really is.

It is the most interesting thing.

But I also was really taken with when the Beyonder makes his offer.

Galactus is like, sate my hunger do it now right like the desperation about it and i thought that was fascinating too um and again you know and it's weird how the the characterizations it seems to me like if you were doing a project like this you would want to be like okay we should get tony stark back in the armor for this thing but no and then and that but that's also that's also almost ahead of its time now because like right now we're wait is tony not in the armor

Keep going.

Fifth, uh, the Beyonder, the original vi- villain-

Mm

... of the whole 1984 event, and depending on which comic era they pull from, either the one who creates Battleworld or the actual power source behind Doom's whole plan.

Victor is so convinced that what he's doing is right.

For himself, or even if it is to control the world, again, to go back to that love of his people, he's the best version of a ruler that anyone could have, if that means the entire universe, right? Whether it be becoming, you know, fighting the Beyonder and looking for those powers or, you know, taking Galactus and trying to harvest the energy.

He's doing something that he sincerely believes in, right? He's not...

soulless.

It's also funny, we keep sort of circling the drain on the Fantastic Four discussion, and every time since the original Avengers movie that a new Avengers movie comes up, there's the rumor that the Silver Surfer is in it, and that's how the Fantastic Four is going to be introduced.

So I think it's interesting that...

With Galactus as the next obvious step up, like it's either got to be Galactus, I guess, or the Beyonder.

You feel like you need the FF for that.

There's a casting that was announced where it was this younger actor from a thing, a teen young adult.

And people are speculating that it might be the Beyonder.

Like Beyonder shows up in both stories, but like certainly has a more prominent role in one of

them.

What a great ending.

Superior Iron Man was kind of going to be Doom anyways, like at least from the comics.

In the comics, Doom takes the power of the Beyonder slash the Beyonders in both versions of Secret Wars.

And that was essentially what Superior Iron Man was going to basically be doing here.

I think them moving away from this is much better.

I have who I wish he was playing and who I think he is realistically playing.

Every photo I have seen of this man since this casting news was announced looks exactly like the Beyonder.

Like it is astonishing how much he looks like Beyonder in the comics.

And Beyonder is this like omnipotent entity who creates Battleworld in the original Secret Wars.

And then in Secret Wars 2, he shows up as a guy with curly hair And it's basically the big bad of that entire event.

I don't think that's who he's playing.

Like that seems a lot more likely or even like an iron lad kind of situation.

But I do almost wish that there was a world where he was the beyonder because he looks shockingly like how he does in the comics.

Mm-hmm.

So it's like you were getting how many different writers' interpretation of the Beyonder.

Shooter's writing the main series, and everyone else is giving you their interpretation of the Beyonder.

Yeah.

Like, I think I, like, God, like, Chris Claremont wrote him as, like, it seemed like he was pure evil when Claremont-