Betty Jean Lifton

And those kinds of meetings are good.

It's funny, you know, in the AAC, Betty Jean Lifton and I used to say, one year we would be vilified.

And not always together.

One year was my year.

And most kids dream about who they were born to originally.

And there's a wonderful writer out there on adoption named Betty Jean Lifton, L-I-F-T-O-N.

And she writes a book called Journey of the Adopted Self.

Best thing I've ever read on the topic.

I didn't have access to books.

I found out last year when I read The Journey to Wholeness by Betty Jean Lifton that it was written in 1995.

And I thought, wow, I could have really used that in 1995.

But I...