Bettina L. Love

And that there's a lot of the curriculum, and actually teachers...

And you know Bettina Love, Patricia Williams, they talk about, like, spirit murdering.

But what he talks about is that schools actually kill off opportunities for our children to do well.

And when you said that, Roberto, it really struck me because in choosing the comfort, like you said, it does do away with, kill off opportunities for us to go deeper in a particular understanding or a relationship.