Betsy Fogle

And who currently holds that seat?

Betsy Fogle.

Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of her ads.

She's running for, uh, state Senate against, uh, Melanie Stinnett.

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But I, you know, I, I, I, I opined, I don't know what the wisdom...

What's the selling point of voting for Betsy Fogle when if she is elected, what is she gonna be able to get accomplished in a super majority Republican Senate versus, well, I may not like Melanie Stinnett, let's say I'm a voter.

I may not like her, but, well, if I want to get something done, I'd, I'd rather have the, the, the candidate who could get something done, and I think that argument translates to you as well.

And if our legislative body, that super majority of Republicans, would actually do limited government liberty things- This wouldn't be an issue, but that's not what they do.

I mean, you've got advertisements now making the case that, a- and the one I find the funniest is the Betsy Fogle one where, well, she supported the gas tax.

How did we get to...

Oh, the, yeah, the gas tax.

And I think the only reason that Melanie Stinnett can promote that she didn't vote for it, I don't think she was in the General Assembly at the time.

Yeah, I, I don't know.

Um, but that is pretty ironic that, that that is being used against Betsy Fogle when the Republicans controlled everything.

They were the ones...

And so they're campaigning around our countries, around our states and cities, trying to convince you to just look at what the prices of things are right now and say, we'll make it better.

Here's the question you need to ask anyone who comes to your house from the Democrat side, whether Betsy Fogle, doesn't matter who it is.

Tell me exactly what policy you have in mind that's going to take care of this situation.

What exact law, what bill are you going to author and get passed that's going to make this better? I don't know how Democrats campaign here in the state of Missouri.

Really, in Jefferson City.

It is a super majority Republican control.

And so you ask Betsy Fogle, what are you going to be able to get accomplished? If you are the state senator, what are you actually going to get accomplished? What bill can you actually get passed in Jefferson City? I'd like to know.

The answer, the short answer, is nothing.

You're seeking to represent the 30th Senate District, which largely represents the Springfield area.

Tell us why you're a better fit for the seat rather than your Democratic opponent, Betsy Fogel.

Yeah, so I really feel like what I bring to the table is a lot of everyday experience with small business and within our community with things.

And I think what I've proven in my time in the house is I'm really willing to hit the change things, make beneficial change across the board.

So I've really been strong in that position.

You know, my commitment is that that's something that would be top of mind for me and something that I would want to see move forward.

In another area, education funding, you know, some Democrats, including your opponent, Betsy Fogle, have been critical of the legislature using general revenue funds to pay for educational savings accounts, which could potentially help families pay for private schools.

Do you think that that needs to continue to be a priority given the state's budget woes?

Yeah,

do not underestimate Betsy Fogle.

No.

The Fogle machine, as I call it, because