Beth McCarthy

... tying into this conversation, is that, like, this is the third time you've come on the podcast.

And if I think about Beth McCarthy in the first episode, and I think about your music as well, I would probably have described it as, like, pop in- like, indie pop.

Mm.

And then I think the second time you come on, it was the launch of, like, Goodbye, and I would say it was way more in, like, a pop with a rock element.

Who do you think it is, love?

Oh, I didn't realize this was Beth.

It says, it says Beth McCarthy at the bottom of the video.

[laughs] I can't.