What would you say are the most important things to focus on early in that journey, early in the, the training arc?

Well, I think top of the line probably would be the idea of that mindset and that mental training that is so important just for this idea of personal protection or protection of your loved ones.

I think that definitely we've, as an industry, put a lot more focus on that.

I think it's not just a physical sport anymore.

I think people realize that there is a lot of value to studying what happens to the body under stress, and what kind of stress responses might we have to deal with, especially in a critical defense kind of situation.

I think it's important to recognize that there are so many levels of situational awareness and conflict avoidance, and things that we can really train up without having to go even to the range.

In fact, it's, it's really the most important part of, I think, any kind of self-defense training, is that mindset.

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