Bernard Sumner

Even though I'm fans of them, I don't remember all the names.

I really just know Ian Curtis and Bernard Sumner.

And Peter Hook, I think, is another one.

I don't

Yeah, no, exactly.

You know, that's one, I guess it's... there's so many things that, you know, so working with other singers, say with Chrissie and then with Bernard Sumner and Matt Johnson, which was all at the same time, by the way.

You know, I was in The Throne Electronic at the same time.

I was in two bands and I was still, I was working with Chrissie and I think, I look back and I go, well, my ability to work with those singers isn't just about me playing the guitar.

They're hard, they're hard to devise.

M- when I was in Electronic in the '90s, me and Bernard Sumner, we tried putting them in wherever we could, and then we'd come back to them a week later and go, "They're not really good enough na-nas, are they?" 'Cause when you find them, they're like gold.

A good na-na goes a long way.

It's pol- It's like a, a great pop device.

Yeah.

E- Ian Curtis was playing guitar every once in a while in Joy Division, but it was, it was, you know, main- mainly Bernard Sumner and...

Yeah.

So this is a harder list to, to make than I expe- like, most of the punk bands I can think of.

So there we go from Joy Division into New Order, and now another connection that takes us across the city.

Electronic, uh, not only brought New Order's Bernard Sumner together with the Smith's Johnny Marr, they also got Neil Tennant to join him for this record.

It's a perfect bridge between our two sections today, of course, and with the news of this week, 'cause apparently in Manchester, someone's been getting away with it.

[singing] I've been walking in the rain just to get wet on purpose.

And since The Smiths ended in 1987, he's barely paused for a breath.

He formed Electronic with Bernard Sumner and has also played with bands like Talking Heads, The Pretenders, The The, and Bryan Ferry.

He also joined Modest Mouse when they hit number one in the US.

Aside from playing in bands, he has helped score films alongside Hans Zimmer, he's released a run of solo albums as well that have only added to his rich back catalog, and he's also written a memoir.

I've been, I think, I think I've been a full-time member of I think five bands now.

Of course, there was The Cribs, and then Electronic was kind of a different situation with B- Bernard Sumner from New Order.

That was-

Yeah

... we, we, we were, it, it was just regular.

You know, we all did it.

Ian McCulloch and, and Bernard Sumner from New, New Order was like we, we just didn't mind looking...

We, we were very not very macho.

I think he's been working with for like 20 years.

So like that guy's, I guess doing all the Bernard parts or whatever.

Um, or who it's Ian was the vocalist, right? Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But Hookie sang a bunch and then the guitarist sang some, so.

The good thing about Joy Division songs is that like sort of, I mean, like, look, like, you know, Bernard Sumner like sings like the Ian Curtis part when they play the,

you know, the Joy Division.