What would have been maybe your biggest disappointment or who were the biggest disappointment for you?

Oh, well, I suppose in terms of teams.

This is going to be sounding like sour grapes because it is.

The Czechs were very, very disappointing, I thought.

I thought they came out, they beat us and obviously they beat the Danes.

And I thought, oh, they could do something interesting here.

You know, I think they came out of a group with Germany as well.

Anything in terms of the refereeing or the gameplay or the technology? Would you keep any of that? I wouldn't, no.

Well, I know they say the best form of defence

is attack, but sometimes you need that owl at the side going...

Get back, get back.

Just run it down.

Just get back.

Burst the ball if you have to.

Like I remember playing a match years ago in Kiketty, beside St. Canis' Cathedral.

machine he's like Roy of the Rovers I think he is yeah let's talk a little bit about DR Congo because an incredible performance particularly from their goalkeeper but this won't be a surprise to you Bernard because you've been following the African combinations I watched

But if it's all predetermined, what's the point?

Because I suppose you have those third place finishers and you have... opening up means that the likes of Cape Verde now are true.

Okay, they've gotten a tough draw with Argentina.

Oh my God, like talk about pulling the short straw there.

And I suppose you do have some form of anticipation as to who's going to make that top eight.

Like the Scots were holding on, like praying and hoping that their goal difference or whatever.

But then when I was looking at it, it's amazing that it's, you know, it's points.

Bernard, have you had a crystal ball and you could predict what's going to happen to England at this World

[laughs]

And I remember going home, and, uh, Northern Ireland were playing Brazil in the 1986 World Cup.

I hope I'm getting this right now, 'cause that's my vivid memory.

And I wasn't that interested in it.

I was watching it.

But I remember driving my father near...

I'd say my father just wanted to just pick me up and just throw me, kick me out to the road.

Mm.

Right.

A huge upgrade, right? But anyway, the EU have basically gone, "No, no, no, this is way [laughs] out of bounds.

You're not, you're not bringing this in." I'm really annoyed about that, [laughs] right? Because I'm kind of feeling with Wi-Fi and with my, my, my information and stuff like that, like I, I don't plan on murdering anyone, and, [laughs] you know, so like, uh, l- a- and yes, when I go on my phone and I see, like, you know, the Japan away kids jersey, I go, "Oh, God, I was talking about that." [laughs]

Yeah

...

if I want to buy it, I'll buy it.

If not, if not.

So I'm sure now people will come on and go, "Actually, Bernard, that's really harmful, and this is the reason why," and I, and I get that.