Berlin

We've seen the demise of the coal m- mines, for example.

Well, in northern New Hampshire, we've seen the demise of the paper mills, right? So what do you do when you have a town like Berlin, New Hampshire, which actually stands for the town that the timber built, okay? This is really...

So the mills and the forests and, and the cutting was so important and created a vibrant community, but then all of a sudden when the mills shut down, you went from vibrant to nothing, to nothing.

So I remember the Republican mayor of Berlin, who didn't believe in government except for one purpose.

He believed that they should then place prisons in Berlin, and the reason why he wanted the federal prison and the state prison wasn't because he wanted an invitation to all these people who had a questionable background.

But you know what prisonm- employment meant? It meant that people had a decent wage and had a benefit package, and that benefit package meant that he could keep his schools open and his hospitals open because they had insurance.

So he saw it as not just a employment package, but a way for his city to survive.

Yeah

... impact and legacy on Gorham, New Hampshire, and Berlin, New Hampshire.

And one of the things was that people would talk about, "I had a job for life," kind of like what General Motors used to be like-

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