Benno von Wiese

And So after the war, she gets back in touch with some of her friends.

One or two of her friends try to get back in touch with her, and she's like, you're not in that world anymore, right? Benno von Wiese, who remained a Nazi throughout 1945, she's like, stay as far away from me as you can.

But then there's a big question in her life.

Does she get back in touch with Martin Heidegger? And she ends up doing it.

She grew up in Nazi Germany, or she grew up in Germany, came Nazi Germany, she was arrested, she was in a camp, she escaped.

And after the war, some of her old friends, you know, tried to reach out to her and she had to decide, would she talk to them? One of them, Benno Von Wiese, who stayed in the Nazi party the whole time, worked as a lawyer through 1945, she said, get out of here.

She said, no. You're a literal

Nazi.

And I sort of explore this question in her writings about a couple of different people who tried to remain friends with her after the war.

One was a guy named Benno von Wiese, who had been a lawyer, couldn't look in the mirror, as you said, became a convinced Nazi and served the Nazis throughout the war.

They had been friends studying with Karl Jaspers before the war.

And when he tried to reach out to her after the war, she said simply, basta, don't have any interest in you.