Benjamin Smith Barton

And there's no way to prove this.

Only through his writings and exchanges that he had with someone like the Dr. Benjamin Smith Barton about Native American people in the South.

I think his encounters with Native Americans made an enormous impact on him as a person and helped influence his morality for the rest of his life because he wrote so sympathetically about Native American people and moral equivalency and superiority on their part in many, many ways to ours.

I say ours, you know, me being part of that colonial heritage.