Benjamin Holt

That's a little depressing sometimes to have to go try to recruit people when they're just like, why, why, why do it?

So not to sideline us too quickly, but you mentioned briefly you're in an equipment business and you actually run Holt of California, which I'm sure most of our listeners do not realize the Caterpillar, which is the internationally known brand of agricultural women, I think, and more now.

actually started right down in Stockton, like a little over 100 years ago.

And was Benjamin Holt invented Caterpillar,

correct? Benjamin Holt invented Caterpillar.

It was called Holt Brothers Manufacturing.

Started, well, 1904 is when he really mastered them.

And 1925, Holt and a company out of San Leandro called Best Company, they were competitors, merged and changed the name to Caterpillar Tractor Company.