Benjamin Ginsberg

You're a law professor.

You could be the next attorney general of Florida.

You know, this is the kind of things he's dangling in front of me, sort of a carrot if I would just go along.

And, you know, I think a lot of people would have gone along.

Based on that, we were hoping that the Florida Department of Law Enforcement in the Governor Rick Scott administration would investigate and prosecute.

And that did not happen.

And we also met with the acting U.S. attorney for South Florida, Benjamin Greenberg, who seemed interested in prosecuting for a while.

We, I remember, had about a 90-minute meeting with him and my lawyer.

I thought this was really interesting.

Election law attorney Ben Ginsberg, who's a longtime Republican, uh, election attorney, came out this week and basically said that he felt that if some of these restrictions on vote-by-mail did go into effect, that you would actually start seeing many more elected Republicans come out against them because, and this is his quote, "Republicans are the older party and older folks like to vote by mail and Republicans are the rural party." He said this on CNN.

And so I think there is this kind of, um, pretty outdated sense that these sort of voting restrictions would generally hurt Democrats, but I, I thought it was really interesting to see a longtime Republican come out and say that seems to be probably a misunderstanding or at least an oversimplification.

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While Americans broadly agree free and fair elections are essential to a healthy democracy, they disagree on what it takes to sustain confidence in the electoral process.

Rick Hasen joins Janai Nelson, Sarah Isgur, and Ben Ginsberg.

Nelson is president and director counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund.

Isgur is editor of the SCOTUSblog, and Ginsberg is a political law advocate and distinguished fellow at the Hoover Institution.

So Ben, we've talked about kind of the infrastructure, but there's, there's the, the thing that matters most for elections is really trust in the election system.

That's what this panel's about.

And for those of you who, who don't know Ben Ginsberg, I will just say, I used to always tell my students, election lawyers are the best of lawyers.

They're the ones that go to war, and then they go out for drinks afterwards.

We start tonight with a trio of power source legal experts.

We've got Elie Honig, Ben Ginsberg, who has worked for decades on election law for national Republicans, and also our own Tom Dupree here.

Elie, I think first when this came down today, uh, just recently, a few hours ago, people were looking through it, trying to discern what the court has done here and what they have not decided today.

So Kaitlan, what the court has not done is decide the ultimate constitutional issue.

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Well, we'll see what these legal challenges look like this week.

Elie Honig, Ben Ginsberg, Tom Dupri, it's great to have all of you here tonight.

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