Benjamin Epstein

Um, and I want to say some other organizations, they were also involved in, uh, And then I think the next big thing after that was the Hart-Celler Immigration Act.

So the key person that was from the ADL there was Benjamin Epstein.

I don't know if there's any relation or not, but it's another one.

So he was the ADL director and he was the one who basically published a lot of the there was a book he published a nation of immigrants.