Ben True

My best athlete at Cornell, Jimmy Weiner, was...

Second in the HEPs to Ben True in the cross country.

He's also ripping out a 148 as a freshman.

So some of them are good at cross country.

Like, I wanna make sure that I, like, get to enjoy this, and maybe I can fine-tune some pacing later." But I think taking that experience and, like, copy-pasting it to a much longer race helped a lot.

Ex-explain to this audience what Ben True meant when he said, "Be the fastest turtle out there."

[laughs] Well, I-- This originated last year when I was just-- I moved from sea level to altitude, like, back to Colorado, and I was just running every workout like I was at sea level.

And so I'd make it one rep, and, like, the rest of my reps were just blowing up horrendously.

Milrose.

Ben True.

Are you counting We- are you counting the Ben True, Nick Willis New York City Grand Prix 5,000? I know Nick Willis isn't American, but he is married to an American.

He lives here.

Yeah, not, not Nick Willis.

Dude, uh, my biggest, like, seven-day span in college was one summer going into my, I think, senior year of college.

Uh, I went to train in, uh, at Dartmouth College for a bit in Hanover, New Hampshire, and, uh, do you guys remember Ben True, like legendary 5K guy back in the day, ran for Saucony? Uh, he trained, like, alone in New Hampshire, and he joined us for the long run, and he was like, "I've ran..." Uh, it was, like, m- summer, so he was like, "I can count how many times on one hand I've ran with someone else this year." And I was like: Wow, this is, oh, this is cool.

And he, like, totally dropped my shiz on, like, a 22-mile run, like, like, nobody's business.

And it was funny, uh, I was like, "What's your next race?" And he was like, "The Brussels Diamond League." And I was like, "Yeah, I'm getting ready for D2 cross country, so-"

Like everyone's pretty much doing their own thing.

Still coached by Ben True?

Yeah.

Okay, awesome.