Ben Heppner

And so a lot of this evolution has happened over several years, but I'm glad to see how the Toronto Mass Choir has been able to be at the forefront of so many of those discoveries, collaborations.

not only just being the first to record a big mass choir recording like that, but, you know, doing recordings with the Toronto Symphony and, you know, with the Jazz Orchestra and, you know, Ben Heppner and, you know, just different things.

And so it pretty much...

Every time we would take on a project, it would be like we're the first ones to do it.

actually had, yeah, so it's not what I do at all.

But he worked with Ben Heppner, who's a big name.

If you look him up, he was one of the greatest Helden tenors for over 20 years.

And his technique was really mostly around just finding the core of your sound and not letting it slip too into that kind of heady sound that I think a lot of younger singers find themselves in.