Ben Goertzel

And it kind of grew out in California in the 80s and 90s.

But they have this global mailing list, which included thinkers like Nick Bostrom, Eliezer Yudkowsky, Ben Goertzel.

And these are thinkers who've gone on to really shape much of the discourse that now exists around AI.

The founders of Extropianism were two people called Max O'Connor and Tom Bell, but they called themselves Max Moore and T.O. Morrow, so two Morrow.

There's apparently 17 or more different versions of the singularity, including the idea that it's when humans and the technology merge.

Cosmism is the C.

And the reason that's important is because Ben Goertzel, who I mentioned earlier, he kind of popularized the term AGI in transhumanist discourse.

So artificial general intelligence, which is the stated aim of OpenAI, I believe now, or is one of the stated aims.

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Now, David Hanson runs the company Hanson Robotics.

Duh.

Okay? There's another nerd involved named Ben Goertzel, and Ben Goertzel is the chief scientist, or was or is, I don't know, of Hanson's Robotics.

Now, Ben, old Benny here, is all over the Epstein files.

He was.

And there is a documented, deeply disturbing exchange between Epstein and a man named Ben Goertzel.

And who's Goertzel?

Goertzel's the researcher who actually popularized the term artificial general intelligence, or AGI, the holy grail, the machine god itself.

That doesn't change from substrate.

It's funny, Ben Goertzel was telling me that if we live in a simulation, his idea would be to break out of the simulation.

Here I have my paper on how to escape a simulation.

Wonderful.

There are a couple of other states where people have taken it.

I've taken it to Tennessee, and so yeah, that was actually the, uh, that was the motivation because I knew that there's already, back in 2024, uh, the Cadmus Journal has published their outline for a global constitution for AGI, and it's called the Participatory Framework for Global AGI, and, uh, like Ben Goertzel, Marianna Bozman, Anna Lou Smithson, and, and Laura George are the primary authors of that.

So I'm like, "Wow, so here's another kind of globalist organization doing a global constitution around AI.

We, we need to get some protections in place."

And so, you know, in the Tuskerale bundle, C is for cosmism, and C is where, you know, they, they want all of these digital beings to colonize the cosmos.

And so there is this exchange, um, between Ben Goertzel, and Ben Goertzel is also the guy who popularized the term artificial general intelligence.

So, you know, the, the machine god that's gonna kill us all or, or bring us utopia.

So he wrote the first book on AGI, Artificial General Intelligence, in 2007.

Um, and the person who he credits with co- uh, coining the term AGI is actually Shane Legg, who is a co-founder of DeepMind.

And Shane Legg also has, um, a, a chapter in that, in that book.

Anyways, Ben Goertzel is, um, messaging with his friend Jeffrey Epstein as, as one does, and, [laughs] um, after he was convicted.

And, um, he says to him, "You know, these women knew what they were doing.

So it's kind of just like transhumanism with this like broader cosmic, uh, vision.

And, uh, y- and the rationalism, um, was founded by Yudkowsky, who was a transhumanist, Extropian, um, singularitarian who hired the leading, uh, modern cosmists named Ben G- namely Ben Goertzel, who worked at the, uh, Machine Intelligence Research Institute, which is originally the Singularity Institute founded by, uh, Yudkowsky.

So rationalism like emerged directly out of, uh, this movement.

And basically, the idea was, okay, if we're going to establish a cosmic post-human utopia at some point, we're gonna need to develop these advanced technologies.