Well, that was illuminating.

illuminating.I have an obsession with jackets, sort of the equivalent of my office suit, 'cause I, I spend a lot of time in the outdoors.

So I've worn Buffalo all my life.

I credit a, a teacher of mine called John Moore, uh, he was ex-Met, and at school he wore a Buffalo.

And, uh, and I picked one up and w- have worn them ever since.

But they're notoriously difficult to get hold of, especially if you live in the South.

I actually resorted to coming up here.

[laughs]

Right

... whatever the conditions, and it's super fast drying.

So when he invented this, we, we actually went to see the family, the Hamiltons.

He, he has sadly passed away.

He passed away a few years ago.

But we went to see his family, and they said when he invented this, the, the, they actually got like, not death threats, that's something that happens now, but they got people coming up and accusing them of having a dad who was putting people's lives at, at risk because it was so out there, this design.

Everyone was like, "No, it's all about layering, and you need a waterproof outer layer, and then you'll wear a fleece underneath.

Yeah.