Maybe reflect on that too, Dr. Carson

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he, he very much believed in the Bible and every aspect of the Bible, which I thought was fascinating.

Uh, and you know, the last few years, uh, a lot of emphasis on the Sabbath, why we need a day of rest, why we need a day of reflection, a time to really concentrate on our role with our families, on our relationship with God.

And if, if, if God created us, he knew we needed that.

And, uh, you know, I found that in my own life to be so important.

I remember when I was in medical school, and, uh, of course, there are a lot of tests and things that go on, big comprehensive exams, and they would usually be on Monday.

What's your message to them right now? How do you keep clear and steady and s- uh, and centered in this moment?

Maybe reflect on that too, Dr. Carson

...

he, he very much believed in the Bible and every aspect of the Bible, which I thought was fascinating.

Uh, and you know, the last few years, uh, a lot of emphasis on the Sabbath, why we need a day of rest, why we need a day of reflection, a time to really concentrate on our role with our families, on our relationship with God.

And if, if, if God created us, he knew we needed that.

And, uh, you know, I found that in my own life to be so important.

I remember when I was in medical school, and, uh, of course there are a lot of tests and things that go on, big comprehensive exams, and they would usually be on Monday.

What's your message to them right now? How do you keep clear and steady, and s- uh, and centered in this moment?

Tell me about the purposes of the American Cornerstone Institute and how it came to be.

Well, you know, I worked very hard as a pediatric neurosurgeon.

And I was looking forward to retirement, but I failed retirement and I ended up in government.

And then as that first Trump administration was coming to an end, I said, this time I'm going to get it right.

This time I'm going to really retire, become a very good golfer, cruise around the world and just enjoy myself.

But looking at the direction of the country, I couldn't do that.

I said, I'm gonna have no fun watching a country going down the drain.

So talk about how you see the role of faith and for those that would be, as we might say, naysayers about this type of curriculum being taught in schools.

Mm.

And I was willing to do whatever needed to be done in order to keep it from going off the cliff.

But during the campaigning, uh, Donald Trump and I became friends, and he really wanted to be president, and I really didn't.

[laughs]

You do?

Who wrote the Book of Proverbs? Solomon.

Solomon wrote the Book of Proverbs.

My middle name is Solomon.

Can you talk about that a little bit?

Well, you know, ours was a radical departure from other governments in the world because we stayed in our founding document that our rights come from our Creator and therefore cannot be taken away by man, cannot be taken away by government, and that we have certain unalienable rights, life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness.

One of the reasons that our country became so popular so quickly and why so many people wanted to come is it was extremely unusual to have a situation where people were concerned about your ability to lead the life that you wanted to lead.

And particularly in Europe, there were so many people who were being oppressed by their government.

Why does that happen? I think there's such thing as evil that exists.

And I think if you gave everybody plenty of money and plenty of food and a nice house and property, there would still be conflict because they would want yours.

Unfortunately, that's the situation we find ourselves in.

And

And y'all are doing something about this.

Yeah, it is really not only embarrassing, but it's dangerous when people don't know what their rights are.

They don't know how their government works.

they become very vulnerable.

And somebody passing by with some philosophy that makes no sense at all seems very attractive to them.

And it is rather disturbing a lot of times you see these men on the street and they ask them simple questions.

They have no idea what you're talking about.

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... and not a lot of television watching.

Well, needless to say, I was not happy, a-and my brother wasn't either.

But, uh, you know, we had to do it.

And that's when my perception of myself really began to change.

As I started reading about explorers and scientists and surgeons and s- and the things that they went through in order to achieve success and how they sometimes failed, but how they learned from that failure, and they kept moving forward.

And it really helped me to see that I wasn't this dumb kid.

Yeah.

There you

go.

Particularly looking at what's happening to our children.

And you are what you eat.

And, you know, your body is developing, your brain is developing.

If you're putting empty calories or even detrimental things into your body, obviously it's not going to react in a very good way.

So the fact that our federal government has recognized this and really wants to do something about it is excellent news.

What's your answer, Doc?

I was so

thrilled to see all of those videos that were posted on social media because those people who run the mainstream media rooms, I think they've already been indoctrinated.

They only look at the bad things and that propaganda is spread all over the world.

So of course these people are going to come here expecting to see what they've heard about and then they see something completely different.

But it's not only a joy for them, it's a joy for us too to see that.

Because this indoctrination process has been going on for quite some time.

And unfortunately, our children are not being shielded from it.

It's an odd take on things to me.

... 'cause it's amazing.

Well, you said the key word there, perspective.

You know, if you're very nearsighted [laughs] and you only look at the things around you, uh, you can get a very distorted idea of what the world is like.

But, uh, when I started reading, particularly about people of accomplishment, scientists and explorers and surgeons and inventors, and, uh, recognizing that almost all of them had setbacks, but instead of letting that make them bitter, they said, "What can I learn from that so that I can succeed next time?" And, uh, I began to develop that mindset early on.

And even when people were cruel, um, you know, I would just look at them and say, "Gee, I feel sorry for that person.

I wonder what happened to them.

They used to be a cute little baby," and, uh, and move on.

Just how can parents help their children develop a balanced view of the United States of America, the history and where we're at today? What does that look like on a day-to-day basis? What resources are there, and then also what, what is it, what does that look like in ongoing conversation in the home?

Tell me about that moment and where does that fight come from in your heart personally?

Well, recognizing that, you know, we've been blessed with an amazing country.

Went from a ragtag bunch of militiamen to the pinnacle of the world in record time.

And we were different.

We recognize that our rights come from our creator, as stated in our founding document, and not from government.

And we believed that.

that we were a moral and religious people.

Talk to me about that.

And you'll hear the you'll hear this incredible mind that Ben Carson has.

Well, we are fearfully and wonderfully made in the image of God.

And he's given us these incredible brains with billions and billions of neurons.

billions and billions of interconnections.

It remembers everything you've ever seen, everything you've ever heard.

And it gives you some idea of how complex your brain is, which can process more than two million bits of information in one second.

How many of you remember what you had to eat this morning? Raise your hand.

Just give the folks your perspective of how this all, how it started and how you changed during this whole process of seven hearings of what you learned from it and learned from these incredible, courageous witnesses we had.

Thanks for coming on.

Well, thank you, Tony, and thank you all for being here.

I just want to tell Dr. Tapper, don't feel bad because they're accusing you of misinformation.

The SCLC put me on the terrorist watch list several years ago.

They got so much pushback, they took me off pretty quickly.

But I think it goes with the territory.

I know many of you are enjoying the great American State Fair this week, Monday being Maha Monday.

So Ben, ask people what they need to do and then listen closely, folks, and you'll hear this incredible mind that Ben Carson has.

Well, we are fearfully and wonderfully made in the image of God.

And he's given us these incredible brains with billions and billions of neurons and billions and billions of interconnections.

It remembers everything you've ever seen, everything you've ever heard.

And to give you some idea of how complex your brain is, which can process more than two million bits of information in one second, how many of you remember what you had to eat this morning? Raise your hand.

And it doesn't take you very long to figure that out and raise your hand.

But what did your brain have to do for that process to take place? Well, first of all, the sound waves had to leave my lips, travel through the air, enter your external auditory meatus, travel down to the tympanic membrane, instead of a vibratory force, just travel across the ossicles of the middle ear to the oval and round one, instead of a vibratory force in the inner lymph, which mechanically distorted them microcilia, converting mechanical energy to electrical energy, was shoved across the cochlea nerve to the cochlea nucleus of the pontomedullary junction.

Just give the folks your perspective of how it started and how you changed during this whole process of seven hearings of what you learned from it and learned from these incredible courageous witnesses we had.

And if we forget both those, we don't have America, Doc.

Absolutely.

We've known that this was going to happen for quite some time.

It's been happening.

In the book, The Naked Communists, He gave the 45 goals of communism in America.

This was back in 1963 that it was read into the congressional record by a congressman from Florida.

But one of the key things was to remove God, and to gain control of the school system so that you can indoctrinate the kids.

There are people fighting back, Doc.

But tell us a little bit about that book before we dive into early American, uh, religious, uh, history.

Well, we have a number of children's books.

The latest one is called Built on Faith, and basically, it shows that the founders of our nation were people who did have a relationship with God.

And, uh, many people have said, well, they believed that God existed, but they didn't think that He had any purpose or any influence on what actually goes on.

And, uh, you know, how He interacted and showed things, uh, to the founders would kind of give that a false narrative, because you look at somebody like George Washington, who was a courier during the French and Indian War for General Braddock.

All the other couriers were killed.

George Washington had two horses shot from beneath him.

Uh, what do you make of that? Like, uh, w- h- when you look at Benjamin Franklin, what do you think about his faith, um, and his, his relationship with, with God? H- how do you think about this character in, uh, American history? Um, w- where do you place him?

Good for her.

And she worked hard so that after a couple of years, we were able to move back to Detroit, still in a multifamily setting in a dilapidated area.

But at least she was independent at that point.

I was a terrible student.

probably the worst student you've ever seen.

Kids used to tease me, just call me names.

And I tried to act like it didn't bother me, but it actually did.

Tell us what it is.

Right.

We have, we have to be vigorous in there, knowing that there are forces that are intentionally trying to indoctrinate our kids to prepare them for something else.

And, you know, I think this country is v- a very special place.

Uh, I've mentioned to you before that my wife and I have been to 68 countries, and, uh, there is no place like this place.

The freedoms that we have, the ability to pursue whatever it is that you wanna pursue, uh, and do it vigorously and become successful, it's incredible, and we wanna preserve that.

And people who try to denigrate and say that this is a horrible place, I wonder if they recognize that there are so many people who want to come here from all over the world, that we're the only country that has a dream.

You've never heard of-

Yeah.

and

to indoctrinate our young people.

And they start very early.

They know that you can get them early It was Lennon who said, give me your children to teach for four years and the seed that I sow will never be uprooted.

And we're seeing the fruits of that in a lot of our college and university students now.

Well, we aren't going to just capitulate to them.

We're going to fight very vigorously to make sure that our children know our very rich history.

right? You make an appearance in this movie?

If Ben Carson were in charge of Detroit, if I gave you a magic pen and you could rewrite the future, what are you going to do initially?

Well, I would do the same thing that I would do for the nation, because it's the same problem.

And that is a bloated government, lots of bureaucrats, relatively little focusing on the problems.

And fiscal irresponsibility is what destroyed Detroit.

It is the same thing that's in the process of destroying us right now.

$17.5 trillion national debt.

The only reason we can sustain that is because we can print money.

So what what what is it in the speech that was problematic, do you think, to the president?

What was that experience like, first of all, putting such an incredible project together? And this is an animated film as well, is that right?

It's an animated film.

It has a lot of voice actors in it that you might know, like Pat Boone, Rob Snyder, John Snyder, Kirk Cameron, Dr. Alveda King, Gary Sinise, Kevin Sorbo, Rich Little, who can imitate any voice.

And it's extremely well done.

But the key is helping our young people to know what our real history is.

Because there is an attempt that seems to make our young people think that America is evil, has an evil past.

Every society has good and bad.

What do you hope that families come away with when they watch the film?

But this new one specifically about faith, tell us about it.

Well, you know, our country is really quite unique in the way that it was formulated.

Our founding document says that our rights come from our Creator and not from our government.

And with this book, we wanted our kids to recognize that faith has always been a big part of who we are.

Talking about George Washington, and the fact that he kept the Bible with him all the time.

And John Adams, the second president, said that our Constitution was designed by a moral and religious people, and is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.

Madison talked about faith and wrote it in.

How did you shift your thinking on that to start thinking about how do I get this in a way that kids will understand?

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It had a lot to do with my mother.

You know, she came from a huge rural family in Tennessee, bounced around from house to house, never really had a place to call home, less than a third grade education, married at age 13.

And then you could ask the question, how did she come out of that? But she developed a strong faith in God, and that was always her solution to every problem.

And as we were growing up, we were not particularly good students at first.

And that's putting it very mildly.

I was a terrible student.

Tell us about that.

Ben? And you did it individually, and I guess it's up to the parents or the mom, because not a lot of dads

are there, Dr. Ben? The parents have a lot to do with it, but do recognize that there are forces involved that are deliberately trying to indoctrinate our kids.

And, you know, that wasn't the case 100 years ago.

But really, starting in the 60s, a lot of these Marxists got into our school system and to the teacher unions, and they have been pushing this very, very hard, classical Marxist ideology.

And by the time they get to college, you know, most of them are already gone down the road to And that's why we do what we do at American Cornerstone.

That's why we have the Little Patriots program.

That's why we have the movie that will premiere on Sunday, this coming Sunday at the Trump Kennedy Center, which goes through the whole 250 years in less than an hour and a half.

I'm feeling that the Democrats just plain don't like America anymore, Dr. Carson.

... there's no other explanation for it.

That's exactly right.

And we have plenty to be proud of, and our young people have plenty to be proud of.

And one of the things that happens historically, Marxists, they come in, they try to erase your history, and they try to rewrite the history, and, uh, that's what indoctrination is all about.

You look at teacher unions and how they've been infiltrated by people from the left side.

And the Bible says it, "Train up a child the way he should go and when he's old, and not depart from it." They know.

Right

... for the people who had defects, and, "Well, we're actually doing them a favor if we get rid of them," that was the thinking.