So yeah, just tell us about those early days of the band and how you came together.

Yeah, well, so Greeny and I, Greeny plays guitar.

Greeny and I met at a party.

And Greeny was back then, he was a good one.

I was playing guitar, but I wasn't really that good.

And then Greeny just said, no, come over.

But we didn't realize that we played music.

What kind of elements of his music do you think you guys have brought into your stuff?

they announce that they got to start selling equity

So that's another dynamic.

So let me come to that.

So I guess what I'm saying is you start with the dynamic of everybody's going to invest to win because they're afraid to lose since they have this prisoner's dilemma situation.

So then they use all their operating cash flow.

We're now at that point where we're exceeding that.

Now they're going to the debt markets for a bit, and there's been a lot of bond issuance.

Okay, so where does the money come from?