that,

it is messed up.

There is self-cannibalism, like someone eating their own body.

There are haunted houses.

There's stories about people who go on a journey and never come back, and that's the end, and it's okay.

Um, there's, you know, the girl who gets buried by trash.

Um, these are the stories.

So like what's the part of our society that horror is mining?

Okay.

So Off the Reservation is a just a companion novel in that the only character we know is Nate, the, the young boy who lives through the sweat lodge massacre, whose dad is killed during it, and he is...

It is six or seven years later.

I don't have my notes exactly in front of me, and he's still struggling with what happened.

He's making poor choices still, unfortunately, and he robs the home of a summer Indian, and that's a whole nother thing too.

There are these rich people who t- have their land on the reservation and have these giant mansions there and only visit in the summer, and he gets punished for that, right? Just it's breaking a rule.

He broke into the house.

Mm-hmm.

How about Becky? What are your thoughts?

I've talked about this a lot and have a lot of thoughts about it.

I want to go back.

I think it's really, we really want to look at the current moment we're in.

Ellen is right.

It's cyclical.

And where this cycle started was with the end of the last cycle.

I nailed it.