Barry Nalebuff

I think in the antitrust context, there's also questions about how sometimes competitors counterintuitively want to support the interests of the bigger monopolist that they're supposed to compete against, right? So we've seen some of these dynamics.

I mean, this is what, uh, Ariel Ezrachi and, uh, Maurice E. Strik call frenemies or what Brandenburger and Nalebuff called coopetition.

But basically, for example, in the search remedies case in the US, we've seen Apple and Mozilla, um, have, you know, their own witnesses arguing against a breakup.

Apple, in particular, produced some evidence about the competitive constraint that AI markets constituted against search, right? And so that was really one of the key arguments that led the court to not impose a breakup remedy.