Barry Hertz

Was in the crowd.

Barry Hertz was there.

Yes.

Thank you both to them for updates, by the way.

And I'm glad I walked out.

And I talked to our friend Shaq and Barry Hertz and other people who stayed for the whole thing.

And they were like, it only got worse after I left.

So the People's Choice winner.

disappointing, man.

Yeah.

Barry Hertz, who we were just talking to at the Windsor party, he's also obviously wrote a book about Fast and the Furious.

And it

But, like, I don't know why every year, this year would have maybe been a nice year to do it, to sort of set that precedent.

And the story that we're talking about was actually written by Barry Hertz of The Globe and Mail.

He's been on our show before, and he can be a little cynical.

But even he said, like, it's not like there was a lack of choice.

I think it's got similar, as I said, it's kind of a similar template, but I think it, particularly just the build-up towards the third act, like that middle act is way, I find it way more compelling than kind of the London mush of Six.

I mean, I feel like the The Barry Hertz book that we've been kind of going from Welcome to the Family.

I wish that chapter was like way, way longer because you watch this movie and you're thinking about like, was it Paul Walker finished like 85% I think of his scenes.

and the fact that it's as coherent as it is, and it manages that ending so well.

was

just gonna say just a really quick, really quick self plug plug my own show.

We did have we did have Barry Hertz on a couple of months ago, talking about welcome to the family so action for everyone I'll do, you know, we'll do proper plugs at the end but we had Barry on and it was a delightful interview he's he's a wonderful human being.

And so it was – I'm glad that you guys are using that book as sort of a guideline because it is, as far as I'm concerned – going to be you know it already is but i i i think it's gonna be for a long time kind of the definitive fast and furious bible as far as as far as you know referring to these movies um so sorry graham i didn't mean to cut you off what were you gonna say

All right, but I am going to end with this quote because I thought it was pretty great.

Barry Hertz of The Globe basically said, I won't make the obvious joke and say it's bad, but it's cheap thrills are mutton to write home about either.

And that's what I'll say about 2021's lamb.

If you made it this far, thank you so much for listening.

And they were like, oh, we're going to the stunt driver panel.

And we're like, what the heck is that all about? And so moderated by our friend Barry Hertz, who, Justin, you've spoken to, we've had on the podcast before.

And yeah, it was the stunt driver panel with director Michael Dowse and cast members Jay Baruchel and Laurence Leboeuf.

And they talked about Ken Carter's legacy, this film that they've created called The Stunt Driver.