When you were coming up in Duquesne, and when you were in Valley, how did people see you? Was it word of mouth? Like, like when you were getting recruited, how did that work out?

Well, we, we had a good team.

We had Benjy Pryor, who played for Pitt, um- On my team.

We played Sam Clancy and them two years in a row to go to the state, uh, finals.

So our team was like number three or four in the country.

They were number, uh, three or four country, mixed up.

We had maybe seven or eight round ballers.

Mike Rice, yeah.

When you were coming up in Duquesne and when you were in Valley, how did people see you? Was it word of mouth? Like, like when you were getting recruited, how did that work out?

Well, we, we had a good team.

We had Benjie Pryor, who played for Pitt, um, in, on my team.

We played Sam Clancy and them two years in a row to go to the state, uh, finals.

So our team was like number three or four in the country.

They were number, uh, three or four country, mixed up.

We had maybe seven or eight round ballers.

Mike Rice, yeah.