Bariloche

Then you have, of course, famously the house on Hinalco.

in Argentina near Bariloche that looks identical to Hitler's house, you know, in, I believe it was in, I forget which town, the Bergdorf, I believe.

But in any case, When Gerard Butler went to Argentina and interviewed, for example, the maids at the Eden Hotel, which was run and owned by Nazis who have pictures with Hitler and letters saying, if you ever get in trouble on your little adventure and lose, you can always come here.

Well, he interviewed the maid, who's an old lady now.

Yeah, but Martin Bormann was walking around with no disguise as a man named Juan Keller.

And everybody kind of knew he was a... former high ranking Nazi in Paraguay and Argentina at the time.

And remember, I mean, everybody that lives in Bariloche to this day still celebrates in a parade Hitler's coming to power, you know, and the Anschluss and things like that.

So it's like people think South America and they're very myopic.

Iguazu Falls is something fantastic, wonderful, unforgettable.

Bariloche going further south, Bariloche and San Martín de los Andes in winter and summer are two completely different landscapes and situations.

And Patagonia too, where there are national parks and the Perito Moreno glacier.

Those are the four.

And he convinced the government to start a plan to bring salmon and trout down into these rivers in Patagonia.

So in 1904, I can't remember the details, but they hired a scientist and they started a hatchery in the town of Bariloche.

And then they brought, the interesting thing is that there were no ships that would come from the United States to Buenos Aires with refrigerating facilities.

So they couldn't do that on a straight trip.

Yeah.

And many times these eggs started hatching before they got to their destination, and so they just put them anywhere they found any piece of water.

But finally they made it and they started this hatchery in the town of Bariloche.

And they brought all the American species, not brown trout.

And I'm like, whoa.

You missed one day because you're on this amazing hike in Bariloche.

Like, that's a blessing.

You know,

With me today is Carolina Lockwood, who, despite that very English sounding name and her English sounding voice, as you'll understand, is not really English.

She is joining us from Argentina, where she has been running an equine assisted practice in the mountain region of Patagonia, Bariloche, for a long, long time and has gone through many, many evolutions doing this in an environment that many of us, I think, in the West would find quite challenging and has much to share with us on, gosh, how to do this perhaps a little closer to nature than a lot of other people in Europe or North America might be doing it.

So there's many, many dimensions to Carolina's work.

And what's one of the nicest things about doing this show is that I get to talk to very interesting people, some of whom I've known for a long time, like Carolina, and have watched go through many evolutions.

Hi, really honored to be here.

Well, as you said, I live in Argentina, I was born here.

I've been living in Bariloche since, which is in Patagonia since 1974.

Raising a family, doing all sorts of different jobs, different things, you know, just life really.

yeah.

I mean, there's a place in Argentina called Bariloche as well, which is, it's like a Swiss alpine village.

It's all like timber framed houses.

And there was a lot.

Which creates a completely mind-bending visual when you see it in a documentary.

You visit towns like Puerto Varas in Chile or San Carlos de Bariloche in Argentina.

Yeah, Bariloche is famous for this.

Right.

And you feel like you've been teleported to the Swiss Alps.