Barbara Dilley

So, uh, uh, she was doing the theater program.

No, it was Barbara Dilley at the time.

Okay.

And then Lisa Kraus.

So it was both performance and then movement therapy basically combined.

So I was getting exposed to Body-Mind Centering that I studied there with Susan Appushian, who was one of my teachers back then, who I loved.

And, you know, all kind-- and Barbara Dilley and all kinds of beautiful teachers.

Um, Irene Rockwell, who I, who I learned the, a, a beautiful system of the Five Buddha families.