Barangaroo

It was interesting.

I can recall going to one of the live sites, one of the very big live sites down at Barangaroo here in Sydney.

And the year before, we had accommodated the APEC event convention here in sydney and and the crowds were quite problematic they were here for a protest and there was quite a bit of violence and i can recall the next major event i went to on duty was uh world youth day and getting down to barangaroo and i saw a crowd of about the same size probably 30 or 40 000 people down there mainly young people And I went up to two constables that were stopping these people from coming into the Barangaroo area until the right time had arrived.

And I said, how's it going? And they said, see this piece of rope, Commissioner? I said, yeah, that was a piece of rope, probably two metres long.

And one standing at one side, one at the other.

Board games.

He loves board games because I actually saw him playing chess last year just with a mate down at Barangaroo.

He was down at the restaurant there having a game of chess.

That

Just Bill Gates playing chess.

And that was really intense, by the way.

I sat having a run down Barangaroo down that area down there.

But I don't think he's a snakes and ladders guy if I was to put my money on it.

They're all taking the view that they can get more stations with a bit less bling in them.

That's one of the positions they've taken after some of the really big ones they did around Barangaroo and everything.

I'd argue that we're seeing some good examples of small-scale, sort of, you know, rubber-wheel-based site linkages where you've got driverless things running in places like Singapore.

We've got that in places in Melbourne.

And what's the one that you find it hard to say? Oh, that I call Bonnaroo.

Barangaroo.

It's a redevelopment of an industrial area in the inner city area.

It's really quite nice.

Yeah, and it was really nice also having him there to help with Australian pronunciations.

I think he will still say it better than me.

The part of town I was in in Sydney is Barangaroo.

Okay.

It's rather strange.

There's a trial going on in Barangaroo at the moment, in Sydney, where they've been doing this.

Cafes have signed up where you get the takeaway, you know, reusable cup.

And there's a machine.

Well, I heard an interview ages ago.

I think they did a trial down at Barangaroo.

Right.

The cafe's there or whatever.

On top of that, it's a type of job that requires people to spend a lot of time sitting in front of a computer and not spending a lot of time networking and speaking with other people, which then, in a way, helps them develop this additional level of isolation they become even a little bit more introvert um sometimes probably because they have not been exposed to the outside world right so do you see i guess the question is do you see that in your communities isolation shows up in people that come to the city being bruised and or not at all what do you see

no i definitely see isolation in the industry like um when I was working with Barangaroo, we had my, the entire team that I was working with was upstairs and me, the BIM guy got shoved in the corner downstairs way, like at the entrance, um, like with the reception, like I'm with them, like a part of their team.

Like, yeah, but we don't have enough seats up there.

Um, like you get, you get pushed to the side in like being pure, pure BIM.