Banjarmasin

So there are roads, and there are drivers who could take me somewhere else.

And we drove the next day about 300 kilometers to Banjarmasin, and the airports were open, and I flew out, right? After that, after surviving that, after feeling like maybe the, the, the most amount of empathy for, for where someone would be who wasn't just there for a week but for three months, right? I- I began to think of the Hay Shelter solution, but also just a week after leaving, I got a call from one of the volunteers in Kalimantan, and he said, "I don't have a filter.

My son is choking.

What do I do?" Right? And I was here in Singapore just feeling terrible, and my brain worked really fast because back in the hotel room, I was facing the same thing.

Yeah, there's more activity, more transportation.

This was a ferry that was primarily transporting heavy equipment from Surabaya to Banjarmasin in South Kalimantan.

And so it's full of trucks and excavators and stuff and mostly the drivers.

So in that sense, I mean, it wasn't so much like the usual contingent of families and kids.