Bancroft Library

Like, she was on the ground digging.

interviewing Black people who would have been considered pioneers across the state and collecting oral histories, going to county libraries to find records, going to the California archives and finding records at the Bancroft Library at UC Berkeley.

And so she was... immersing herself in the world of Black people who were the first to do things.

And I should have said that up top because this is quite a meta episode.

recorded.

The Bancroft is going to do it, the Bancroft Library, and also UC Davis, because they don't have a cider guy.

And really, I also have the wine thing that I started.

I was the first guy to sell Sonoma wine in the U.K., If we