Back from the Edge

... yeah, that's kind of, that's kind of how it came about.

Did you at any point, like, before this, were you trying to move away from that? 'Cause I, I, I heard a shift, like, back in, was it 2016, was it? When Back From The Edge come out-

Mm

... and you had Train Wreck, Can I Be Him, Say You Won't Let Go.

... um, last a long time.

But yeah, de- you, you're 100% right.

I'd, I have gotten away from that and, and I listened to Back From The Edge recently and, and one thing I realized was that, um, there is a...

It's, it's not perfect by, by f- you know, by a long stretch and I think the, the mistake, if, for want of a better word, that I've been making is, is striving for perfection too much and trying to make everything perfect in my, uh, you know, i- in my mind anyway-