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Babel, or the Necessity of Violence

Babel, or the Necessity of Violence

Novel by R. F. KuangWikipedia

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Oct 27, 2026

Sallie ChedburnHOST
4:51
So I listened to a good hour and a half of it last night on the way back.
Sallie ChedburnHOST
4:55
I think I've realized what RF Kuang does and what annoyed me with Babel probably.
Sallie ChedburnHOST
5:02
I can't remember why I put down Babel.
Sallie ChedburnHOST
5:05
I think the only reason I listened to the last chunk is because I had an hour and a half's drive.
Sallie ChedburnHOST
5:10
And that's the only reason I actually got through it.
Sallie ChedburnHOST
5:28
I'm still trying to piece together who's who and it's just been an entire shift in the characters that are involved and it annoyed me.
Sallie ChedburnHOST
5:37
I'm not going to put it down because I've got a commute to get through for the next week or so.
Sallie ChedburnHOST
5:41
I've realised I think that was probably a similar reason for why I probably put down Babel.
PaulinaGUEST
40:10
Now, obviously, a huge happy 500 episodes to read on the audiobook show.
PaulinaGUEST
40:18
Now, the book I would like to recommend is my favorite historical fantasy novel and a title that really refreshed the dark academia genre, Babel or the Necessity of Violence by R.F. Kuang.
PaulinaGUEST
40:33
This fabulous book is set in an alternate 1836 Oxford during the peak of British colonialism.
PaulinaGUEST
40:41
It follows Robin Swift, an orphaned boy stolen from his home in Canton by a mysterious guardian.
PaulinaGUEST
40:48
Taught the art of translation, he soon finds himself studying at Babel, the prestigious Royal Institute of Translation.
PaulinaGUEST
40:57
Placed at the heart of the growing British Empire, the Institute plays a vital part in its expansion.
PaulinaGUEST
41:04
But will the power of the Institute lure Robin in? Or will he reject everything that was handed to him and choose a different path for himself? I read this story for the first time earlier this year and I would wholeheartedly recommend it.
PaulinaGUEST
42:24
Plus if you're a fan of dark academia stories the Oxford setting offers a lot of charm to contrast those darker themes of the story.
RachelHOST
37:51
that.
RachelHOST
37:51
But God, Babel stays with you.
RachelHOST
37:54
Babel stays with you, man.
RachelHOST
37:56
Every once in a while, I think about that magic system.
MattHOST
37:59
Mm-hmm.
MattHOST
38:05
Yeah, I
RachelHOST
38:05
mean, that's also an R.F. Kuang, so...
RachelHOST
38:08
God, if you haven't read Babel, you should.
Caroline KayeHOST
0:00
Babel has not simply been reproduced as a biblical story.
Caroline KayeHOST
0:04
It has been reinterpreted as a cultural metaphor.
Caroline KayeHOST
0:09
You could argue that Bruegel is not merely illustrating the story.
Caroline KayeHOST
0:58
They have nurtured, amazed and sustained us.
Caroline KayeHOST
1:01
They have brought us right up to this moment, right here, right now.
Caroline KayeHOST
1:06
Welcome to Babel for the Bible Curious.
Caroline KayeHOST
1:21
Episode 13 The Art of Babble The Tower of Babel story has inspired and influenced all kinds of human creativity and works of art, paintings, literature, fiction and films, and even philosophy.
Caroline KayeHOST
1:40
Babel has not simply been reproduced as a biblical story.
Kate HergottHOST
13:01
...
Kate HergottHOST
13:01
the one that I truly still can't believe that I haven't read, one of the, one of the tops is Babel by R.F. Kuang because I have read-
Kayla HardyGUEST
13:10
Oh, I read Babel, yeah
Kate HergottHOST
13:11
...
Kate HergottHOST
13:11
so many, like I loved Cataba- or she pronounces it Catabasis.
Kate HergottHOST
13:17
She pronounces Babel Babel, so I'm just trying to follow her pronunciation.
Kate HergottHOST
13:20
But I loved Catabasis, and then I really loved Yellowface as well.
Kayla HardyGUEST
13:25
Mm-hmm.
MonicaHOST
43:37
R.F. Kuang, who has Taipei Story, is her latest.
MonicaHOST
43:41
She wrote Babel and Katabasis and many other things.
MonicaHOST
43:46
And she is just 30 years old.
MonicaHOST
43:49
And I think this was her seventh book.
Tatiana GreyNARRATOR
40:00
Capitalism, hurrah.
Tatiana GreyNARRATOR
40:03
This story also reminded me of something Ken Liu said to me several years ago, a thought that R.F. Kuang also used in her book, Babel.
Tatiana GreyNARRATOR
40:11
The translation is a form of violence enacted on the original language.
Tatiana GreyNARRATOR
40:15
It forces the words into different shapes to be accepted by different people than it was initially intended for.
JonGUEST
7:17
it? No, no.
JonGUEST
7:18
I finished Babel.
JonGUEST
7:19
But I finished some other books that I'm getting caught up with.
JonGUEST
7:22
But I have not finished this one, no. Oh, I thought you...
JonGUEST
10:30
all kick the sand castle over yep
ChrisHOST
10:32
so rf kwan she has also written a handful of books the really popular trilogy the poppy war right And also a book called Yellow Face, which is kind of a story about her experiences, I believe, growing up as an Asian American.
JonGUEST
10:49
Elisa has read that one and she says the writing style is very different than Babel.
JonGUEST
10:55
It's like a much more high stakes, like action packed kind of thing.
Mabel TaylorHOST
9:14
And when I unpack, I like to listen either to nonfiction books or fantasy novels, because those are things that I don't, like, read on my own time always.
Mabel TaylorHOST
9:25
And so I've been listening to RF Kuang, and I listened to Babel, which is amazing.
Mabel TaylorHOST
9:29
I don't know if you guys have read it.
Mabel TaylorHOST
9:30
It's, like, genius.
JessHOST
22:10
I think it's why I also often get frustrated because the world is your oyster and you only took this limited amount.
JessHOST
22:17
An example of fantasy that doesn't stretch outside of reality very much but is very, very magical for me is Babel by R.F. Kuang.
HannahHOST
22:26
It
JessHOST
22:26
uses language as magic, and they're studying at Oxford.

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