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She was one of the four House members appointed to the commission by House Speaker Javier Martinez, Democrat of Albuquerque, after the proposal won approval.

The other members of the Investigatory Committee are Representatives Mariana Anaya, Democrat from Albuquerque, Andrea Reeb, Republican from Clovis, Bill Hall, Republican from Aztec, and Reeb is a former prosecutor, while Hall is a retired FBI agent.

Well, they should know what they're doing.

They should have an idea of how an investigation should go, and they should understand that what happened in the state is unacceptable.

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Still though, in the decades that followed, the reservation looked little like the nation of today.

Change accelerated in 1921, though, when the Aztec Oil Syndicate struck oil one mile south of the town of Aztec, New Mexico.

This would go on to be developed into the first commercial well in the region, attract-

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[eerie music] Welcome to the UFOs and Aliens podcast.

In this episode, we dig into the nineteen forty-eight Aztec crash hoax that sparked a century of UFO lore.

Let's uncover what the evidence really shows.

Back in March nineteen forty-eight, a rumor swirled out of the deserts of New Mexico that a silver disc-shaped object had crashed near Aztec and that alien bodies were recovered.

The story exploded into national attention when Variety columnist Frank Scully turned those whispers into two glossy columns in nineteen forty-nine, and later a full book in nineteen fifty, titled Behind the Flying Saucers.

By then, newspapers, magazines, and even the FBI had taken the allegations seriously enough to file preliminary inquiries, at least according to the reports that circulated at the time.

In nineteen fifty-two, a full court proceeding exposed the duo's ruse.

The US Justice Department, after receiving evidence from Conn's investigative files, filed charges that resulted in Newton and Gebauer being convicted of fraud by the end of nineteen fifty-three.

[mysterious music] Welcome to the UFOs and Aliens podcast.

Today we're digging into the nineteen forty-eight Aztec crash, a New Mexico UFO hoax that's been woven into Roswell lore, and what this case reveals about evidence, secrecy, and why some stories survive despite their fraud.

When the first thread of this tale appeared in Variety under Frank Scully's column, it seemed like a fresh splash in the still quiet sea of post-war UFO chatter.

Scully didn't write from scratch.

He tapped Silas M. Newton and Leo Gebauer for their so-called first-hand reports of an alien saucer that allegedly crashed north of Aztec, New Mexico on March twenty-five, nine-nine four-eight.

Those two men claimed they'd seen the craft land with six to eight humanoid bodies inside a hard shell structure that reflected light like a mirror.

Some versions even named the creatures as three-foot-high beings.

The same sources had already fabricated elaborate hoax devices and had even lured reporters into buying supposed extraterrestrial technology, proving the entire story had been an engineered spectacle rather than a genuine crash.

[mysterious music] Welcome to the UFOs and Aliens podcast.

In this episode, we examine the legendary nineteen forty-eight Aztec crash claim, tracing its origins from Frank Scully's book through hoax allegations and what evidence, if any, actually supports a UFO wreck in New Mexico.

Now let's explore one of the most fascinating mysteries in UFO history.

First off, the Aztec crash narrative began in Frank Scully's nineteen fifty book, Behind the Flying Saucers, which claimed a saucer had crashed near Aztec, New Mexico, in March nineteen forty-eight, and that alien bodies were recovered.

This story quickly filled an information vacuum left by wartime secrecy.

The book leaned heavily on two self-proclaimed experts, Silas Newton, a so-called radio astronomer, and Leo Gebauer, who purporting to own advanced energy detection gear, whose credibility would later be discredited.

The investigators discovered that both men were involved in earlier penny stock scams and that their testimonies had been extracted under duress or from press releases they later retracted.

By nineteen fifty-three, the consensus among experts was that the story relied on fabrications rather than fact.