Azra Hromadžić

There's also this way of green transition making mini, really small-scale hydropower plants.

around big rivers like Drina, which is basically bordering Serbia, Neretva, Una, and I want to mention a beautiful book by Azra Hromadzic, an anthropologist called Riverine Citizenship, I think it's called River in Citizenship, a Bosnian city in love with the river, which is telling a story about basically local activism and resilience around Una River in Bosnia, where they also wanted... to develop a mini hydro power plant and basically the protests and the locals, because out of their love to the river, this is what I think is crucial, again, to say, this idea of place attachment, right, and place relationships.

So you relate to something else in other cultures.

I don't know, when I was in Norway, it was about the woods and woodlands.