Australian Christian Churches

And just a few years ago, we sort of crossed paths again and he was wanting to write his story.

And to draw a picture of who he is and what he does, he has been a pastor in the ACC churches and So he's known as a pastor around Campbelltown, Western Sydney and Newcastle.

He worked for Compassion for a short time.

He also had a career for about 10 years in the police force and as a police prosecutor, and then about 10 years in the Defence Force as an Air Force chaplain.

Christy Blakey and myself came from Western Australia.

So she is the state president for ACC, Australian Christian Churches.

And then we were able to really lean into and speak to 12 different politicians face to face.

That's great.