Is that actually the case or is this something that has been happening in Indonesia for quite some time? So I guess what I'm asking is, is there a history to this or is this a new phenomenon that we're seeing?

Yeah, so globally speaking, there is a history to this.

I'm most familiar with the Australian and the Indonesian context, but it's been there for a few decades in Australia, as an example.

It's just that SLAP can be more or less effective when you look at the broader context of the legal system in which it operates.

So, for example, in Australia, there are many cases during the 90s involving SLAP.

Typically, courts will shut it down very easily.

There's all these ethical duties on litigators to not abuse process and so on.

What do you see as the future of SLAPP? suits in Indonesia? Do you think that they will increase with this or are there other ways that environmental activists are being threatened?