Atkins

And that got put on the back burner.

My... latter time in london was retail it was all retail okay it was i worked a bit on on liverpool liverpool one right seven stone sheffield a couple of other things so that was my big my bag was like big retail paul's a corelli at the time paul's a gorilla yeah he was um he was a lot of john lewis stuff yeah yeah i did mark i was the marx and spencer right account holder as well right for qs side right so i just fell back into retail and did a ton of retail in my five years okay mixed between ACOM and Atkins.

I was basically regional director for retail.

Worked all over the Gulf.

About right.

Yeah, that's about right.

So I ended up back in Saudi in 2024 with Atkins, with Atkins Railways.

So I was based in a little place called Alula, which is kind of...