Arthur L. Williams Jr.

And I'm so thankful that I made that connection all those years ago.

And speaking of coaches' language, you talk about in the book, you quote your friend Art Williams.

And he said, you know, nobody wants a boss, but everybody wants a coach.

They do.

What do you do? What do you look for? How do you find a champion to draft off of?

I'd like to share the story about when I met John Maxwell for the first time.

I was actually traveling in Russia And Romania, when the Iron Curtain had fallen, and we were over there on Crusades, and John and I had a mutual friend, though I didn't know John personally at the time, and he said to me, the guy's name was Roger Breland, he had a singing group called Truth, and I was over there traveling with him, and my wife and I were traveling with him, and we were doing Crusades, and he said, you've got to meet John Maxwell, you two have so much in common.

Well, that's when I went to the first conference.

So, you know, that moves me from, do you know

who art Williams is? Mm.

You know who Art Williams is? AO Williams.

So he built one of the, he built Primerica.

Yeah, yeah.

And it was an insurance war back then.

And a guy named Art Williams was my early mentor.

And Art went in and he showed people how they can buy term life insurance and invest a difference and get rid of high price, low value, whole life insurance and things like that.

And from that moment on, I was like, that's the best plan.

There's a lot of people that buy term, invest the difference.

That's Art Williams made the phrase up.

Yeah, and don't get an IUL.

Dude, I actually understand it if you logically did what they're saying.