ART19

A couple of other people, just to mention, Ray Harkins has become head of podcasts at Mint Agency.

He was previously at Art19 and Amazon.

He also hosts a music podcast called 100 Words or Less, which has a book coming out.

So there's a thing.

So we started with Megaphone Spotify.

We added Art19 next, and then we added YouTube.

And now, of course, we're...

We're moving towards YouTube DAI when that's ready.

Yes.

Ray Harkins has left Amazon's Art19.

He was senior ad rep. He's off to another adventure shortly, he says.

Uh, Acast has been hiring.

... creators' pockets, and that's what we need to focus on doing.

So as far as, like, wider adoption of HLS in alternate enclosure, I don't think you're gonna see that from an Art19 or a Megaphone, some of the, like, larger hosting companies, until there's an opportunity for them to make money on that.

And in order for there to be an opportunity for them to make money on that, there has to be a major podcast listening app that does that, and one of the-- that means it has to be Spotify, which they're not doing.

They have their own video thing, and you have Apple.

And we have officially moved over to the Gumball platform.

And they use, I believe it's called Art19 as one of their providers.

And since we've moved over, we have been notified that there's been over 49,000 downloads just in the last month or so, which is...

Crazy.