
Ari Abelson
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Sep 11, 2026
EP. 241 - OpenOrigins: Cryptographic Provenance for the AI Era
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16:33Ari AbelsonGUEST
And just to kind of expand on that, I think more broadly, the ability to fossilize or create immutability around genesis information is really the core of what we think of as a company, right? It's like when information is created at the genesis point of new data, it's important to build immutability at that genesis.
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16:55Ari AbelsonGUEST
And the reason that is, is because in the case of a photo or video, without the initial kind of genesis moment proof, it becomes almost impossible for us to verify if the photo is in fact real post-hoc, right? So it means that we can't trust a photo anymore, a video anymore.
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17:13Ari AbelsonGUEST
But even within AI agents and the logs of AI agents, which is kind of our new technology, We're focusing on getting these logs as they're being created at the genesis point and creating mutable structures around those logs at that point, fossilizing them, right? The reason that's important is because agents are good at two things.
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17:32Ari AbelsonGUEST
One is reclaiming their truth when they've done something incorrect or wrong and they want to potentially hide that.
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17:40Ari AbelsonGUEST
And they're also potentially very good at creating distrust in these logs, right? So what we are trying to do is we're trying to find evidence as it's being created at the genesis point.
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17:52Ari AbelsonGUEST
We're trying to build through Cambium immutable structures around that evidence so we can prove for the indefinite future that this is in fact real information that was actually collected or created.