Archie Shepp

Because Captain Beefheart is pretty strange.

Or Archie Shepp in the jazz world, [coughs] you know, uh, or Cecil Taylor in the jazz world.

These are unique creators.

I don't see anybody sitting at a computer and, and creating a, a program that would say, "I want something that sounds like this." I just don't see that happening.

And of course, M- McCoy Tyner on the piano, and then Alice Coltrane on the piano.

And then he brings in the younger brothers, Pharoah Sanders and Archie Shepp and Eric Dolphy later on in his career.

But there is no Trane without Miles Davis.

There's no Trane without Dizzy Gi- Gillespie.