were a elite athlete, and you were looking for fitness programs for yourself, or was it after you left being an athlete? What was the starting point?

Yeah.

Basically, I was a competitive fencer for 18 years.

I tried to make an Olympic run.

About two years into training for Tokyo, I retired.

And I felt very much like I didn't look like an athlete despite the insane amount of exercise I was doing.

hours of cardio per day, waking up in the morning, training before work, training after work.

While you're on YouTube.