Appium

So the one thing that...

I've been working on is Mobium, kind of like a new Appium.

I'm not sure how popular it will become, but it's just something that I am making first and foremost for myself in terms of automation.

So I have been using Cloud almost 20 hours a day now for a while.

That's your problem.

And that's why the people who work on Appium, the open source project, they are literally doing God's work to try solve all of these kind of problems.

But it's never going to happen.

So the other side of it is there's the guy who created Selenium.

We want to be able to keep there.

Uh, same with Appium, so I have a very good relationship with the Appium folks, WebDriver IO, do all of that, and I still get to maintain a lot of the work that I do through standards, which of course our competitors benefit from, but everyone benefits.

And the idea is hopefully a rising tide lifts all ships, right? And makes everyone's life easier along the way.

So I do a lot of that and then go to conferences and like, "Hey, here's this really cool thing that we've built out," or, "We're doing this thing and we're giving it away because it's important to the industry," and things like that.

And so that if you press Tab through the screen reader, it would give you some, like, where you are and describe it to you, and is that a standard way of describing things at the time? Because with screen readers, accessibility people will feel this frustration, is that, like, every operating system screen reader acts very differently.

So a screen reader on Linux is very different to what would happen on Mac to Windows.

And then you have different competing companies on each of those platforms who do different things, right? And it's the same problem that people have when doing automation on mobiles with Appium, especially other tools too.

But the way you do things on Apple is very different to the way you do things on Android because there's no standard, and there, like, there's no want for a standard because they're like, "Oh, we're kind of monopolies.

It's a simple intent for that application.

Now, in order for... to fulfill that intent, that application has certain capabilities, some buttons to click, some things to select, and in the end, based on that, a test case needs to be generated, which a lot of the time either was done manually or in automation, someone writing the test case that is followed to run across the automation line through frameworks like Selenium and Playwright and Appium for mobile application.

Now, that itself can be...

AI is very good at solving that.