Antz

Yes.

Moving into the music, John Powell wasn't a household name at the time, probably still isn't, but he had a great run in Hollywood scoring John Woo's Face/Off, then followed up scores for animated films like Antz, Chicken Run, and Shrek before landing the Bourne gig.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Told her I missed her course 'cause she d- remember her club? It was really nice.

She looked like the, she looks like the character from Antz, the, the animated film-

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...

Humanoid insects was a big part of childhood.

There was the Ants movie and the Bugs Life movie.

Everything was about bugs for a while.

There was this adventure game.

Sure.

Um, and he had also done Antz, and Antz kicks ass.

Sure.

Yeah.

It's no-

Antz with a Z.

It's no, It's No a Bug's Life.

It's...

This guy, and he was a, a cartoonist for The New Yorker.

It's produced by PDI DreamWorks, which also created Antz and the Madagascar series.

My children are obsessed with Madagascar right now, yes.

Shrek was only the fourth film ever made using the animation techniques required to create the film.

Oh, what?

Antz?

I saw a woman-

The mind, the mind, the mind that stole Bug's Life and made Antz-

I saw a woman-

... said this?

I'm sure he definitely still is holding that grudge to this very day.

So the three form the company and are off with movies, the first being Ants, then The Prince of Egypt, and then The Road to El Dorado, and then Chicken Run.

And only one of those four are CGI.

The other two are hand-drawn, and the last one is stop-motion.

So yeah, Ants is the only CGI out of those ones, which doesn't really age that well.

I never really liked Ants, actually.

Not really, though, but it's pretty...

It's not that good.

Yes.

And then they did Antz for DreamWorks.

Uh-huh.

Mm.

Right.

So Antz was their movie.

Uh, I went up for Shrek, towards the end of Shrek- Mm-hmm ... and s- and wound up staying up there for six years and did on six different films, half of them Sh- or six different projects, half of them were Shrek related.

Mm.