Antonio Gracias

There is a whole world of how these Silicon Valley moguls, you would call many of them, or executives sort of like relate to each other, and a lot of it goes back to PayPal and the PayPal Mafia and people who started PayPal, then becoming these friends, and Musk being involved in it.

I mean, you mentioned Antonio Gracias, you already knew him.

D- is that a world that you already had entry into and understood, or you learned through Musk the relationships between these people and how that actually influences what happens in these-

By writing about Steve Jobs and then doing The Innovators, I certainly got to know that world, uh, very well, of tech bros, and even that world of the quasi-libertarian tech bro mentality that say, a Peter Thiel at the center.

How does that feel to kind of be connected to someone who, as you have amply captured, is extremely volatile and is also maybe becoming a little more controversial every day?

Yeah, I mean, it's not great.

I would love it if he would lie low [laughs] for like a year, but he ain't gonna do that, and that's what this book explains, which is at one point, Antonio Gracias, his friend, uh, like takes his phone away from him when they're traveling and puts it in the hotel room safe so Musk won't get up a- And in the middle of the night, Musk calls hotel security and makes them open the safe so he can start tweeting out weird things.

That's who Musk is.

Okay.

So then once I saw this failure, then I realized we needed new leadership, and that's where I brought in two new people to purchase the company, one of them Antonio Gracias, the other Sir Christopher Han.

And those two people now are the, um, the main shareholders, the operational control over the pharma company.

MAPS has no control over it whatsoever.

Right.

I mean, there's so many, so many things I wanna parse.

Even before-- I'm, I'm fascinated by Antonio Gracias and-

Mm-hmm

Virtually all the government aid programs out there, this is the gateway drug to those.

In fact, DOGE advisor Antonio Gracias said his team matched the EBE population against federal benefit databases and now claims that more than one million were receiving Medicaid.

That's your taxpayers going to illegal immigrants.

Now, here's an-- also a really important thing that you need to know.

Um, I'll, I'll kind of speculate for a moment here.

Um, Gracias, Antonio Gracias was one of the lead investors in Resilient, helping, uh, move from Lykos to Resilient in this new phase of their drug development program.

Um, and, uh, I think they got rid of most of the team at Lykos.

Um, Gracias famously is, um, very close with Elon, um, and was kind of on stage with his famous chainsaw-

Uh, and it's a delight for me to be able to help Pari build the future of the company.

Roelof, can I ask you, um, this round was, was co-led by, by Antonio Gracias, uh, of Valor Equity, and Gavin Baker.

They also have that kind of joint vehicle.

This comes up quite a lot at the moment.

But a few thousand overpriced pickup trucks are the least of the related party concerns in this document.

Antonio Gracias is a long-term Musk ally and sitting member of the SpaceX board of directors.

He also runs a private investment firm called Valor Equity Partners.

According to the IPO prospectus, SpaceX and X AI are carrying more than twenty billion dollars in AI infrastructure lease obligations tied to agreements with entities connected to Valor.

Hey, man, you've been very good to me.

Can I help you? Hey, hello, can you be, you know, I don't know if you know who Antonio Gracias is, but he is now on the Ford's 400.

He worked with me at Goldman Sachs.

He's on the board of, he may not be on the board anymore, but he was on the board of both Tesla and SpaceX.