Antoine Béchamp

And, uh, and there was a challenge then, uh, from a sort of terrain theory mitochondria perspective.

The problem was, um, mitochondria weren't discovered at the time, so, uh, this was best personified by two fellows named Louis Pasteur and Antoine Béchamp.

Pasteur was the scientist that championed germ theory and that germs were the cause of disease, uh, whereas Béchamp was a more terrain theory-oriented guy, uh, viewing a sort of, uh, dysfunction in the, the, the body's fundamental health as the problem.

Uh, the trouble is he didn't have mitochondria available to him.