Anti-Western sentiment

That's how they sort of slammed the American tariffs imposed on some of these BRICS countries.

And Shubhajit, so when BRICS condemns unilateral sanctions or any Western-dominated institution, is it becoming anti-Western bloc or is that too simplistic a lens?

Well, you know, the Western groupings and Western analysts have tried to frame it as an anti-Western grouping.

And I think at some level, China, Russia, at some level, they have also tried to push this sort of narrative as a anti-Western alternative to the, uh, Western grouping, which is primarily, which is G7 essentially, because Russia used to be part of it as G8 and then it, uh, got, uh, expelled from the grouping.

And so they have tried to frame it as anti-Western, but I think India is one of the moderating factors where India has always mentioned and maintained that it's a non-Western grouping.

And now I think even the Chinese and the Russians, because of the relationship and the high-stakes relationship that they have with the Western countries, it doesn't see it, it as an anti-Western grouping.

And if anything, UAE is the last country to call it a anti-Western because to be part of an anti-Western grouping, it itself identifies itself, I think, more as a Western, part of the Western bloc than an anti-Western bloc.

So I think that's a framing that has been, is a deeply flawed framing.

Different countries want different things, and, uh, what, what is kind of holding them together is that the feeling that the world should not be only shaped by the-- by America, US, and Europe.

But I did not get the sense that every country wants BRICS to become an anti-Western, anti-West group.

Uh, of course, India certainly does not behave that way, and neither does Malaysia.

And, uh, for Malaysia, the attraction is quite simple: more markets, uh, more partners, and more room to deal with different powers without having to choose just one side.

where they have limited voice.

So it's not framed as anti-Western so much as post-unipolar.

Professor Mahoney, building on that, we know China will take over the BRICS chairmanship next year and hosted the 19th BRICS summit.

So looking back, China has hosted the BRICS summit three times before.

J.D. Vance, I think, owes his position as vice president to Tucker.

And that loyalty to Tucker is compromising him now if he cares to have real moral integrity and credibility against the darkest forces right now on the rise in our politics and our society, which is this woke right anti-Semitism of the right and anti-Westernism of the right.

I think it's the inevitable consequence of squandering a victory, a massive cultural and political victory in 2024.

I'm worried about Gavin Newsom, AOC and all these DSA members that will make their way into the Democratic Party.

I agree with you.

He should be taking a stance against that.

If he cares to have real moral integrity and credibility against the darkest forces right now on the rise in our politics and our society, which is this woke right anti-Semitism of the right and anti-Westernism of the right.

Hands the left victories on a silver platter and completely implodes any sort of integrity the right would have on keeping these forces at bay.

And the people who got that sort of that uncomfortable feeling when they saw the wrong people waving flags, all of a sudden they had a moment here.

They had a moment and they would gather strength and become a lot more anti-American, anti-Western eventually.

I mean, before it was kind of your basic, you know, progs, but a sort of globalist transnational identity devoted to anti-American centered around anti-Americanism and eventually anti-Westernism.

If it wasn't born that day, it was certainly given a great shot of adrenaline.

And the second thing would be the conspiracy theories who were previously confined to yammering away on Usenet are now all of a sudden centered with books and websites and videos and the rest of it determined to tell us that this was a dastardly act perpetrated by our own government.

And the people who got that sort of that uncomfortable feeling when they saw the wrong people waving flags, all of a sudden they had a moment here.

They had a moment and they would gather strength and become a lot more anti-American, anti-Western eventually.

I mean, before it was kind of your basic, you know, progs, but a sort of globalist transnational identity devoted to anti-American centered around anti-Americanism and eventually anti-Westernism.

If it wasn't born that day, it was certainly given a great shot of adrenaline.

And the second thing would be the conspiracy theories who were previously confined to yammering away on Usenet are now all of a sudden centered with books and websites and videos and the rest of it determined to tell us that this was a dastardly act perpetrated by our own government.

It's about many elements which right now are quite conservative and of course many of existing institutions are very reluctant to change.

So if BRICS serves as a facilitator and accelerator of changes, without necessarily getting anti-Western, but complementing existing institutions with new ones and maybe exercising some pressure on older institutions to make them move faster.

I think everybody will benefit in the end.

not only BRICS members, but the whole global economy and the global finance might become more sustainable.