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Anthony Jay

Anthony Jay

Dr. Anthony G. Jay — PhD biochemist, President and CEO of AJ Consulting Company, and bestselling author of "Estrogeneration" and "Sugar Beat," formerly a heart-disease researcher at Boston University School of Medicine and Mayo Clinic.

Sep 10, 2026

23:32
What can I do here, Dr. J.?
23:34
I don't have a problem with the pills, too.
23:36
You mentioned vitamin D and magnesium and all these other ones.
23:39
Very, very beneficial.
23:40
Very important.
23:41
Vitamin K2, of course, helps keep calcium out of your arteries.
23:45
Ironically, too, just a little side note, statins don't just block your cholesterol.

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35:51
But what should people know about the types of plaque there are out
29:07
Right.
29:08
So of course, if you study saturated fats but you're feeding people feedlot cow beef, you're just basically studying seed oils all over again with a little bit of more gut irritation for some people.
29:20
But, and that's super important.
29:21
People don't realize a lot of these studies are just nonsense 'cause they're feeding them saturated fat but it's feedlot, and then they add a bunch of preservatives like BHT, butylated hydroxytoluene, which is super nasty, and B- BHA and all these fake antioxidant chemicals that are artificial, and they, then they blame all the health problems on saturated fat, and it's like, no.
29:42
Like, you know that Steak 'n Shake company? They, they're doing, like, oh, they're cooking their french fries in beef tallow, and then it turns out they're putting BHT in there, which is absolute garbage, that preservative chemical that's super nasty.
29:53
So they're kind of, like, losing all their credibility by doing that 'cause they wanna keep refrying the oil over and over and over, and it gets degraded, so they put this nasty chemical in there, and then they ruin all their credibility.
30:04
So it's like, no matter what, you can't win with these processed foods and these studies that try and study the difference between saturated fat.

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40:54
I get so fired up.
29:59
And isn't LDL an important part of the immune response?
30:03
Yeah, especially LPA.
30:05
You know, LP little a, I'm sorry.
30:07
I usually just call it LPA because it saves me time, but it used to mostly be called LPA.
30:14
And then people on social media kind of popularize this thing about the LP little a, but the point is, you know, the gene is LPA.
30:21
So it's easy to just call it LPA, but LDL and LPA are actually exactly the same thing.
30:28
Most people don't realize that except for one little thing.

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43:30
But if you consume either of them, they have this protective mechanism.
StephenHOST
16:01
What do you think of that standard of care and that solution?
16:05
Yeah, it's surprisingly bad.
16:08
I mean, statins aren't even good.
16:10
They're straight up bad.
16:13
It's just the narrative has been so overwhelming and so powerful and coming from so many medical doctors.
16:17
Why? Because they train them all the same.
16:20
They go to med school, they get a stamp of approval if they say the right things.

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StephenHOST
31:22
Yeah.
10:35
So what's the difference between
10:37
the two? Cholesterol itself is healthy for you.
10:40
It's really a major component of your brain.
10:43
Your brain is the fattiest organ in your body.
10:45
There's a ton of cholesterol there.
10:46
There's a lot of cholesterol.
10:48
Cholesterol is a building block for your hormones.

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43:58
What are a handful of tests that you talk about in the book that are worth people going to get done?
37:55
Like, what do we know is actually causing that?
37:57
Yeah.
37:58
So I think, and again, this is in my book, I think it's pretty clear, you know, but, um, let me explain it from the beginning, right? And we can talk about amplifiers in a second.
38:09
But I think the root cause of plaque in people's arteries, almost all plaque, it comes down to insulin resistance, and here's how it works.
38:15
So first of all, we have two energy sources.
38:18
Humans have two energy sources.
38:19
We either burn sugar or you burn fats.

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68:16
Okay.
37:55
Like, what do we know is actually causing that?
37:57
Yeah.
37:58
So I think, and again, this is in my book, I think it's pretty clear, you know, but, um, let me explain it from the beginning, right? And we can talk about amplifiers in a second.
38:09
But I think the root cause of plaque in people's arteries, almost all plaque, it comes down to insulin resistance, and here's how it works.
38:15
So first of all, we have two energy sources.
38:18
Humans have two energy sources.
38:19
We either burn sugar or you burn fats.

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68:17
Okay
28:17
Yeah
28:17
... baseball pitchers, for some reason.
28:18
I get a, a D, a lot of DNA consulting for them.
28:21
But it, but the point is, right, most people shouldn't be thinking of themselves in...
28:26
And the other thing is, people are young.
28:28
You know, like, younger age does help your body metabolize sugar a lot better.
28:33
Still not super great for you, but it's, sometimes if your goal is to be number one in the world or the fastest sprinter or whatever, yeah, maybe you need some carbs.

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47:50
Yeah
MichaelHOST
2:28
Like, when someone's on it, can they undo the, the damage that's been done by it, or is it, are there long-term effects even after you go off of it, if you know the answer?
2:36
I think so.
2:37
It's hard to know.
2:38
I mean, it's hard to know because if somebody has fertility problems, like they're completely infertile, it's hard to know, like, how much ver- I mean, for sure it was something related to hormones most of the time, [clears throat] unless there's, like, severe vitamin deficiencies or something, which is kind of rare.
2:54
Most of the time it's some kind of a hormone thing, and it's hard to figure out, like, which of these different components was the one that increased the risk the most or caused the problem.
3:05
It's hard, right? You can't really piece it all together.
3:07
So you just have to do your best and, um, but I think most of the time you can reverse all this stuff, right? But sometimes it takes pretty dramatic change, and sometimes it's a grind because if your hormones are just completely in the toilet, you're gonna feel terrible.
MichaelHOST
5:33
Um, considering the, the prevalence of plastic in food packaging, what are some practical steps consumers can take to minimize their exposure?
0:00
Like how much BPA and phthalates and things, and those were challenging because number one, nobody was motivated to do it until recently, and nobody was, you know, saying it was a problem and things.
0:11
Again, like a lot of the professional scientists, the toxicologists are saying, "Oh, it's okay.
0:15
It's not a problem.
0:15
It's not toxic, so it's not a problem.
0:17
It's not killing people, so it's not a problem." It's causing a lot of hormone problems, but they were saying, oh, they were just ignoring that, um, because toxicology is looking for toxic levels, right? Like I said, but the Mosaic Diagnostics has an awesome test if people wanna do that, if they wanna get to that level.
0:35
Um, but I think if you're doing the basic stuff, like if you're filtering your drinking water, you're not using crazy sunscreens with crazy chemicals and fragrances and all that stuff, you're fine.

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MichaelHOST
10:36
Yeah.
10:36
Like I, I was gonna relate the BPA.
MichaelHOST
3:30
How do we do that? Because I'm sure our listeners are, are dying to find out how to undo that.
3:34
Sure, sure.
3:35
Well, yeah, so people like to simplify it just so they can understand it better, and they say like, "Yeah, epigenetics is how your genes are expressed," right? Um, and that's true.
3:45
I mean, that's fine.
3:46
That's a good way to think about it.
3:47
But technically it's, it's more specific, meaning it's actual marks.
3:52
I mean, the word epi just means upon.

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MichaelHOST
9:32
So the same things that would help us as individuals, I guess, would help with what, w- with regard to what we pass on?
30:33
But I think the two that stuck out to me beyond the cannabis and soy are lavender and flax seeds, right? Talk about that.
30:41
Yeah, good point.
30:42
First of all, everybody agrees that soy acts like estrogen.
30:46
People just debate about whether it's good estrogen or bad estrogen.
30:49
That's the real debate.
30:51
In my opinion on all of this, whether it's soy, whether it's flax, which we'll talk about in a second, all of this stuff, our culture is so saturated with estrogens as it is with these BPAs and these plastics and these fragrances and these sunscreens and these atrazine herbicides.
31:06
I don't think we need more estrogen.
34:33
It's not just this laissez-faire attitude they have, but it's linked to scientific reasons, right? Yeah.
0:00
If you're going to do that, that's what your body had when you were in your 20s and 30s.
0:04
That's what you should boost back up when your levels go super down, super low.
0:07
Like if you're waking up at 3 a.m. and you're postmenopausal, you should boost your progesterone.
0:12
Right.
0:12
It's classic.
0:14
So we've got enough estrogens in our environment as it is, which I just discussed all the plastics and the fragrances and all this nonsense.

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MichaelHOST
5:38
So if you had to choose like the top three things that, that you can do, what would they, what would that be to D to at first to detoxify yourself? Is it just the sweating? Is it, is there other things that we can do?
5:53
Well, yeah, the detox detox, I usually tell people sunshine, sweating, and exercise.
StevenHOST
1:25
I don't know, how do you think they should approach this so that they can be effective and yet not be paralyzed?
1:32
Yeah, I mean, this is one of the reasons I do genetic consulting because some people have really high breast cancer risk and it's a real big priority.
1:41
When I wrote my book, I...
1:44
I gave like a gold, a silver and a bronze plan based on people's, you know, breast cancer risks or if they're pro athletes and they want to get super serious about this stuff and they really want their testosterone to be higher or if they're postmenopausal or whatever the different situations or if they're on a really tight budget, you got to filter your drinking water.
2:03
You know, you got to be careful with those personal care products.
2:06
You can't skimp on some of that stuff.
2:09
but then in terms of like how extreme you want to get, yeah, you got to get away from the dirty dozen and some of these things, but again, different people in different situations, I think have to be, there's different levels to this, but everybody has to do something and it's got to start with the filtering, the water and the personal care products, in my opinion.

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StevenHOST
10:16
And what kind of consulting do you do for people?
0:00
And 80% of the children in those tested facilities in California, they exceeded reproductive health benchmarks, meaning it's a big risk for infertility later in their life by the government's own acknowledgement.
0:16
This is the actual study.
0:17
They measured five phthalate esters.
0:20
They didn't do hundreds of phthalates.
0:21
They just measured five, but that's fine.
0:23
They're looking at the air because a lot of these plastics, like I say, it's like fragrance, right? They get in the dust and they end up and you breathe them in.
0:00
So it's hard to lose weight when your hormones are disrupted, especially your sex hormones, because they're very involved in metabolism and burning sugar out of your blood and burning fats and things like that, metabolism.
0:13
So that's interesting and really important to understand.
0:17
Now, if we go back to the different categories here, I want to talk about sunscreens.
0:22
So that's the foods, right? We talked a little bit about the foods.
0:24
As you can imagine, we can go into all kinds of depth.
0:27
I didn't even talk about mold estrogens, but...
StevenHOST
0:14
So why is this such a concern, these things that you're writing books, taking time to speak about it, when a lot of people don't even know what this is and don't even understand why it's a concern? So why is any of this a concern to people?
0:30
Yeah, well, a couple of things.
0:32
Number one, they did a study in northern Alaska and they were looking at polar bears.
0:37
They had 11 polar bears and all of them had parabens.
0:40
All of them had phthalates.
0:42
The stuff is circulating our globes in the ocean currents.
0:47
and it's working up the food chain.

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StevenHOST
18:50
How interconnected do you believe the health impacts of endocrine disruptors, neurotoxins like fluoride and pesticides are? And then the next question is, is there anything, if we get this in our bodies to get it out, will saunas work? Will a water distiller get the fluoride out? Is there anything else?
0:00
So let's talk about exposures with these artificial estrogen chemicals.
0:05
And we're not talking about an occasional exposure like Agent Orange.
0:10
And by the way, there's dioxins in Agent Orange that mess with your hormones, but you're not being exposed to Agent Orange, hopefully.
0:19
So what are you being exposed to? Well, there's chemicals in our food, there's sunscreen chemicals, there's fragrance chemicals, and then there's plastic chemicals.
0:28
So I kind of categorize this in four different ways.
0:30
In my book, I have it as a top 10 list.

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